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Re: OpenXTalk Lite Beta Testers

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Making good progress. All appears stable and working on Windows. On track for a public release in early September.

o Richmond's great idea of hiding group "Upgrade" from Toolbar Icons and Toolbar Text by shortening the menuBar worked. Much thanks.
o I noted Brian Milby's link to his dictionary editing tool on gethub. I tried, but I'm not smart enough to figure out how to download anything on gethub.
o Currently working on tperry2x's idea of editing the dictionary's database directly to debrand. Thank you. On Windows, the dictionary db file is at:
documentation/html_viewer/resources/data/api/api.sqlite. What was used to edit this SQLite database file?

@ Richmond. I appreciate the leg work trying to find a way to edit the dictionary's database file. I could not find your questions on the dictionary. Still request:
- Could you lend your expertise with mac/linux to check Release Notes and post an updated list of platform minimum requirements?
- I think preferences stack is the same on all platforms. Could you compare preferences on mac/linux?
- Does Quick Dictionary plugin work or is it blank like the standard Dictionary?

To-Do List
x) Fix App Browser plugin to show IDE stacks.
x) Fix Player object's default fileName to empty, so "Sample" video (LC Logo) can be removed.
x) Hide group "Upgrade" in View > Toolbar Icons and Toolbar Text menuItems, and reordered them in the menu making Icons first then Text.
x) Add copyleft notification to About.txt and revAbout dialog.
x) Lighten Message Box blue hilite color in single-line and multi-line modes.
x) Add nine tutorial stacks.
x) Add btn "Clear Msg Box History" and minor alignment of objects to Preferences.
x) Add "Bug Report" heading to "Release Notes.pdf".
x) Fix program name to appear in menubar on all platforms.
10) Update "Release Notes.pdf" list of platform minimum requirements. Need help.
11) Blank dictionary. Probably uses absolute filepath rather than relative filepath to database file.
12) Debrand dictionary database. There are only a few. Is there a tool for that? Need help.
13) Make .oxt extension. Still want .livecode compatibility. Need help.
14) Add 64-bit re-compiled engine. No contact from Paul or Mark.
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Re: OpenXTalk Lite Beta Testers

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Paul replaced the sample video with another film clip: easiest way to do things.

Release notes: personally I just wrote my 'crap' in Open Office and saved it as a PDF.

I am currently in a 'spot' as my modded IDE won't save stack!

Minimum requirements SHOULD be no different that those for LC 963, if that is your hack-base.
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Re: OpenXTalk Lite Beta Testers

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Just copied the Quick Dictionary plug-in across to my thing to see . . .
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MAGIC!
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Now the "dirty trick" is how to make the Dictionary button and the Dictionary menu item open that instead of the standard dictionary . . .
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Oooops: just one thing, on QUITTING the IDE with the Quick Dict open there is a 'bluey" thrown:
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I'm going to do some 'sophisticated' programming and try to see what happens if we just kill some of those code lines. 8-)
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Yup: that did it. 8-)
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Re: OpenXTalk Lite Beta Testers

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Wow: totally screwed the 'revMenuBar' stack:
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Oh, well, God likes a trier: back we go again. :D
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Re: OpenXTalk Lite Beta Testers

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x) Add btn "Clear Msg Box History" and minor alignment of objects to Preferences.
I spent 4 hours this afternoon cursing and swearing in an attempt to modify the Preferences stack.

Of course you could provide a plugin:
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Attachments
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Re: OpenXTalk Lite Beta Testers

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documentation/html_viewer/resources/data/api/api.sqlite

Ho, Ho, Ho: time to reach for one's highly developed sense of humour (or, possibly, 'humor'). :shock:

This seemed like a good idea:
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https://sqlitebrowser.org/

until I actually opened the fudging thing:
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I assume (?) those 'BLOBS' encoded in some filthy sort of binary data are what we'd like to edit . . .
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GREAT JOY
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Re: OpenXTalk Lite Beta Testers

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Never a dull moment with this 'one':
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Oh, Blast it, I'll open the thing anyway . . .
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What was that rubbish I wrote about God liking a trier?

I think at least one 'God' is redefining the word 'Lila' in a whole new way:
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One, Seriously Blue Meanie!
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Re: OpenXTalk Lite Beta Testers

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FourthWorld wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:31 pm If the reasons are good, we can shout them from the rooftops.
It seems that the system here shows my follow-up questions under "Guest". :roll:
Also I made no direct reference,
so this doesn't really help for a consistent discussion I guess...

If you want to have a look, it's post #3142:

viewtopic.php?p=3142#p3142

I would still like to explore the next steps along your path.
In this case it might be really worthwhile to open a new thread soon.

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Re: OpenXTalk Lite Beta Testers

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@ Richmond. I hope you understood that the x)'s in the to-do list have already been done. The numbered items I still need help with. Also, I have managed to download the debranded dictionary database file from gethub, and waiting for permission from Paul to use it. Terry
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Re: OpenXTalk Lite Beta Testers

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In Scotland an 'x' is a negative sign.
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