LiveCode 10 dp-5 Released

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LiveCode 10 dp-5 Released

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This brings you a smaller Web engine, Script Widgets, Google Sign-in, Android audio playback improvements and so much more.
Which is wonderful IFF you are interested in developing for Android and the Web.

Their team should be congratulated on what they seem to have achieved
(I have no access to DP5 to actively assess how effective these achievements are).

https://livecode.com/livecode-10-dp-5-s ... er-richer/

HOWEVER, I have had a feeling, for several years now, that LC, while concentrating on mobile and web development, have almost
totally neglected Desktop improvements.

This is where I feel LC and OXT should start to diverge.

After all, OXT is unlikely to pick up users of the type that LC is obviously targeting at the moment.

What OXT is likely (in my opinion) to pick up is people who are interested in:

1. Desktop development.

2. Rapid Prototyping.

My recent 'problem' with SVG import (which commercial LC has sorted out, and Mark Waddingham has, very generously,
told me a way to sort this out, with the caveat that that method MAY NOT be used in LC derivatives = OXT) is one
of those areas where OXT needs to work.

OBVIOUSLY the ability to run natively on Macintosh ARM provessors is an unambiguous achievement.
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So, having got a trial version of 10 beta 5 . . .
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it goes absolutely NOWHERE over here:
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Probably because, in spite of all the 'blahhhhhhh' about LC working on Linux,
our friends in the north are till testing it (if they are even bothering) on Ubuntu 16.04,
which, face facts, is slightly out of date.
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It DID install on Mac OS 13.4 beta something:
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Which struck me as surprising as I DONATED money in a Kickstarter for something like this:
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which LC have been rabbiting on about ever since that kickstarter which was 10 years ago: the kickstarter donors
got nothing (killed Open Source), and so on.
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About 21 years ago I had serious problems with my intestines and had to go to the hospital in Kirkcaldy (not that
far way from out friends in the north) for what my doctor (a lovely man who, sadly, died 2 years ago) called
'an up-and-under'. When I was wheeled into the surgery room I was faced with what I can only describe as a large,
jet-black, rubber penis. I was, understandably nervous and said to the doctor, "Wow, I have never been b*ggered before."
to which she replied, "Well, dear, at least it will be by a woman." [well-trained doctor, obviously experienced at dealing
with types like me].

The whole procedure was uncomfortable, and for about 3 days I felt 'funny' round at the 'back door'.
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HOWEVER, the whole thing took no longer than 10 minutes . . .
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Other things that occurred to me . . .

1. I can run RevMedia 4 on my machine running Xubuntu 23.04.

2. I can run LC 8.2 beta on my Macintosh running 13.4 beta.

This means that LC 10 - 5 is far fussier about the environment it runs on: that's going to boost Linux sales, NOT.
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richmond62 wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:12 am Which struck me as surprising as I DONATED money in a Kickstarter for something like this:
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which LC have been rabbiting on about ever since that kickstarter which was 10 years ago: the kickstarter donors
got nothing (killed Open Source), and so on.
Exactly this point above.
I received an email (in my junk mail, as that's plainly where it belongs).
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Intrigued, I followed the link about their 'fundraising campaign' for exactly the reasons you mention above.
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22 backers, pledging $11,573 ... so what's that in real money? £9306.80. (why do Livecode insist in writing it in $ when they are a UK company?)

But what shocked me the most was that they want $395,000 (£317,652) - what on earth justifies that amount?
Apart from greed?

I think Livecode have just shot themselves in the foot. With 25 days to go on their 'fundraising campaign' (*cough* daylight robbery *cough*), I doubt that's attainable.
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richmond62 wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:29 am This means that LC 10 - 5 is far fussier about the environment it runs on: that's going to boost Linux sales, NOT.
As you say, OpenXTalk needs to go the other direction and allow full compatibility for laptop/desktop - and if publishing to whatever standard used on the web - it'll be platform-agnostic anyway. You can have your iOS or Android app as a PWA (Progressive Web App - as that's what Microsoft seem to be all about these days). If that's your cup of tea.

Personally, I hate PWAs and want any programs I run to remain solely on my machine, and not require a constant internet connection just to function.

But, there are some out there that like that kind of thing - which probably comes back to what you saw waiting for you in that hospital room.
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Reading between the lines I believe that our friends in the north are about an inch away from bankruptcy . . . as they have been several times
in the past: not least when they had to move from their 'chi-chi' offices [which struck me as nothing special when I visited them] in the posh
new town of Edinburgh to a sleazy building that also contains the Russian consulate [need I say more except: a country that bombs innocent people].

This may be another desperate attempt to keep those people from having to find the sort of jobs the rest of us do . . .

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... insolvency

https://www.reddit.com/r/livecode/comme ... ment_docs/

I am a real sucker: I lobbed them some moolah when there was a pathetic video of 'our Kev' on a tatty brown sofa begging for money:
what did I get? Dropping the Open Source version.

What a sleaze-b. 8-)

https://livecode.com/covid-19-livecode-impact-fund/
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