Lubuntu

[richmond62]

OK: here's Lubuntu "Perverted Penguin" . . . err . . . whoops . . . "Plucky Puffin": 25.04 Beta inside VMware Fusion on MacOS 12:
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Going for a 'Triple Whammy':
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Ready to Rock 'N' Despair . . .
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[tperry2x]

OK: here's Lubuntu "Perverted Penguin" . . . err . . . whoops . . . "Plucky Puffin": 25.04 Beta inside VMware Fusion on

Not sure why you'd use a beta?

Anyway, before you get too far into this, I'm fascinated as to where your .zip files are coming from. They should be 7zip for tIDE and for OXT Lite.

[richmond62]

I'm fascinated as to where your .zip files are coming from.

MEGA offers you the chance to download them as ZIP files.

The 'lovely' thing about that is that you have to go through 2 stages of decompressing things rather than one.

Of course, slow on the uptake as usual, I only worked that out AFTER I had downloaded them.

[richmond62]

Oh: I wonder what that '!' means on the OXT Lite icon:
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I clicked on EXECUTE and it didn't:
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Why do I have a funny feeling about its owner being ROOT?
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[richmond62]

Trying to run it as root (drag icon into Terminal with SUDO):

richmond@richmond-vmwarevirtualplatform:~$ sudo '/opt/openxtalk/openxtalk_x86_64/openxtalk.x86_64'
[sudo] password for richmond:
[4302] MCU_library_load libglib-2.0.so.0 -> libglib-2.0.so.0
[4302] MCU_library_load libglib-2.0.so.0 -> libglib-2.0.so.0
[4302] MCU_library_load libgobject-2.0.so.0 -> libgobject-2.0.so.0
[4302] MCU_library_load libpango-1.0.so.0 -> libpango-1.0.so.0
[4302] MCU_library_load libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 -> libpangoft2-1.0.so.0
[4302] MCU_library_load libX11.so.6 -> libX11.so.6
[4302] MCU_library_load libgobject-2.0.so.0 -> libgobject-2.0.so.0
[4302] MCU_library_load libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] dlopen failed libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[4302] MCU_library_load failed for libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] MCU_library_load ./libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> /opt/openxtalk/openxtalk_x86_64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] dlopen failed /opt/openxtalk/openxtalk_x86_64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[4302] MCU_library_load failed for /opt/openxtalk/openxtalk_x86_64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] Unable to load library: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0

[4302] Warning: could not load library: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0

[4302] MCU_library_load libX11.so.6 -> libX11.so.6
[4302] MCU_library_load libgobject-2.0.so.0 -> libgobject-2.0.so.0
[4302] MCU_library_load libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] dlopen failed libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[4302] MCU_library_load failed for libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] MCU_library_load ./libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> /opt/openxtalk/openxtalk_x86_64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] dlopen failed /opt/openxtalk/openxtalk_x86_64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[4302] MCU_library_load failed for /opt/openxtalk/openxtalk_x86_64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] Unable to load library: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0

[4302] Warning: could not load library: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0

[4302] Fatal: failed to load library 'gdk' (tried libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0)

richmond@richmond-vmwarevirtualplatform:~$

[richmond62]

Theoretically at least, tIDE should run . . . I'll click EXECUTE:
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EXECUTE did NOT work.

All very queer when that file is mine:
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I tried it with SUDO in the terminal:

nd@richmond-vmwarevirtualplatform:~$ sudo '/home/richmond/Desktop/tIDE/tIDE.x86_64'
[sudo] password for richmond:
[5003] MCU_library_load libglib-2.0.so.0 -> libglib-2.0.so.0
[5003] MCU_library_load libglib-2.0.so.0 -> libglib-2.0.so.0
[5003] MCU_library_load libgobject-2.0.so.0 -> libgobject-2.0.so.0
[5003] MCU_library_load libpango-1.0.so.0 -> libpango-1.0.so.0
[5003] MCU_library_load libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 -> libpangoft2-1.0.so.0
[5003] MCU_library_load libX11.so.6 -> libX11.so.6
[5003] MCU_library_load libgobject-2.0.so.0 -> libgobject-2.0.so.0
[5003] MCU_library_load libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[5003] dlopen failed libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[5003] MCU_library_load failed for libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[5003] MCU_library_load ./libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> /home/richmond/Desktop/tIDE/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[5003] dlopen failed /home/richmond/Desktop/tIDE/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[5003] MCU_library_load failed for /home/richmond/Desktop/tIDE/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[5003] Unable to load library: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0

[5003] Warning: could not load library: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0

[5003] MCU_library_load libX11.so.6 -> libX11.so.6
[5003] MCU_library_load libgobject-2.0.so.0 -> libgobject-2.0.so.0
[5003] MCU_library_load libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[5003] dlopen failed libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[5003] MCU_library_load failed for libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[5003] MCU_library_load ./libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> /home/richmond/Desktop/tIDE/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[5003] dlopen failed /home/richmond/Desktop/tIDE/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[5003] MCU_library_load failed for /home/richmond/Desktop/tIDE/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[5003] Unable to load library: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0

[5003] Warning: could not load library: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0

[5003] Fatal: failed to load library 'gdk' (tried libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0)

richmond@richmond-vmwarevirtualplatform:~$

[tperry2x]

I will test in Lubuntu when I get a moment. It won't be the beta version though.

[richmond62]

Same problem:
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[richmond62]

Just maybe it is none of those at all, but Lubuntu on VMWare playing silly buggers:
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Well it copes with an AppImage:
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[richmond62]

I am now installing SYNAPTIC (via the terminal) so I can see about all those libraries that are supposedly missing . . .
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Looks like a busted flush.

[tperry2x]

Looks like a busted flush.

I don't know why it's not working for you, but I've just tested all three in Lubuntu successfully.

This is my lubuntu 24.04.2 (LTS: Long Term Support) - downloaded from here


Here's a demo video of the complete install process and using them briefly.

I went with the "minimal" version of Lubuntu.
(Since when 7.48GB of a base install of Linux is supposed to be "minimal", I don't know).

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Not when you consider AntiX, which has also got multiple programs installed, a full office suite and test documents is a lot leaner and more efficient, but there you go...

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[richmond62]

Good to know.

[richmond62]

I have just installed Lubuntu-desktop on a Xubuntu LTS 24.04 system and am happy to report that BOTH tIDE 1.12 and OXT Lite 1.10 run without all the "funny glitches" that are displayed in Xubuntu.

[OpenXTalkPaul]

[4302] MCU_library_load libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] dlopen failed libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[4302] MCU_library_load failed for libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] MCU_library_load ./libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> /opt/openxtalk/openxtalk_x86_64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] dlopen failed /opt/openxtalk/openxtalk_x86_64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[4302] MCU_library_load failed for /opt/openxtalk/openxtalk_x86_64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[4302] Unable to load library: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0

This is exactly why I made the .appImage version, you can include whatever libraries you want to include (so long as they're compatible license), although appImage isn't very good to use if you want to modify the IDE files, since it's a locked disk image.

Wasn't sure if MCU_library is something specific to LC (MC=MetaCard?), but MCU_library_load I assume is a library that uses dlopen to load library binaries on Linuxes.

The building systems LC was using for Linux build was Debian 8 which reached end of life five years ago. The problem is there's fewer distros around now that have old gdk2 gtk2 available in their default software repos.

AppImage is one way (there's alternatives) to ensure the thing lasts a bit longer before it completely stops working on newer Linux distros, but I couldn't get a binary for webkitGTK2 that's compatible with GTK2, the repos that had it are gone or have expired security certificates so one would have to dig it from some archive, or do some certificate trickery, or build that from source if one wanted to use Webkit instead of Chomium/CEF that no longer works correctly with Browser Widget and various Linux Window Managers.