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Neuro-Divergency

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For reasons I have not quite worked out yet I keep looking at posts on LinkedIN, which seems to be full of a lot of PC, WOKE, Snowflakey stuff.

A buzzword at the moment over there is 'neurodivergence', which seems to be a fancy way of saying 'non-standard' or 'over-sensitive' (rather like 'bipolar' is the new way of saying 'manic-depressive').

I went to an English boarding school, where, because I was not a testosterone-fuelled rugger-bugger I was bullied horribly . . . I suppose that, now qualifies me as 'neurodivergent'.

I did NOT like my time at that boarding school (although I did emerge, bloody-but-unbowed' at the end with all sorts of fancy exam results and a determination to carry on the way I was rather than bow to the shitheads of the type who made up the vast majority of creatures in my school), but I did become slightly more thick-skinned, so when people say things about me I do not like I do NOT take them to heart.

AND the current tend to pander to everyone's 'neurodivergency' (probably about 25-50% of a given population) strikes me as a waste of time and energy (sensitive types like myself are going to take offence at something, real or imagined, anyway); far better that those 'neurodivergent' people have a chance to toughen up (that does NOT mean I condone bullying).

Both my sons, each in slightly different ways, are 'over-sensitive', 'non-standard', or whatever fancy jargonistic terms you want to use (which makes not one jot of difference to them); both were bullied at school in 2 totally different educational systems to the one I went through . . . they are now 'up-and-running' in the big, wide world.

I am extremely happy that my sons are NOT the usual insensitive shitheads that pass for 'non-neurodivergent' (I wonder what the term for that is?).
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Neuroconvergent.

So: to any 'neurodivergent' types round here: Please don't "Take a Fence". 8-)
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Or, as my Granddad said to me when he saw me scratching a spot: "Don't Picket." :lol:
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Maybe I'm not up on the latest buzzwords, but to me "Neurodivergent" might indicate 'on the autism spectrum'. There's nothing 'snowflake' about that. I will say I find recent statements from nepo-baby, complete nutter, former heroin addict, anti-vaxxer, and brain-worm host RFK jr, who currently is in charge, allegedly, of 'Making Amerca Healthy Again", about people on the autism spectrum to be absolutely insulting and disgusting.
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As I indicated, if I really wanted I could term myself neurodivergent: but I am not autistic.

Now autism is a fairly well-defined condition, and, as far as I am concerned genuinely autistic people need all the sympathetic support they can get.

The trouble, to my mind at least, us that 'neurodivergent' is a far more blanket term with extremely fuzzy edges, and I can see everybody who does not completely conform to someone's idea of normality is jumping on the bandwagon, claiming to be neurodivergent as leverage.

Most creative types are what my granny would have termed 'slightly daft', and that is a good thing, but being slightly daft and autistic are 2 completely different things.

I am worried that those who at either extreme of the psychological bell-curve won't get the support they need because the snowflakey types who aren't even half a standard deviation away from the 'hump' are claiming resources the don't need
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Even if 'Neuro-Divergency' refers to Neurological differences in general... "bipolar' and "manic-depressive" are well defined clinical diagnosis that deserve all the help and support a society can ( and IMO should) offer.
I don't think "toughen up" by enduring harassment from peers is helpful for any condition.
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Hrassment by peers, whether intentional, or just by the way of the world, is an unavoidable fact: and giving anyone the impression that it can always be avoided is disingenuous: so toughening-up is also necessary unless one wants to spend the whole of one's life not engaging with the world.

This does not mean I approve of bullying, or lack of people's sensitivity: far from it. But no individiual can be sensitive to eavery person's needs all of the time: and in fact it may be in an attempt to take into account everyone's sensitivites all of the time everything just grinds to a halt.
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richmond62 wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:41 pm Hrassment by peers, whether intentional, or just by the way of the world, is an unavoidable fact
I don't know if harassment and bulying is unavoidable, but it certainly should not be tolerated, specially not in a public school. I'll agree that, as I've explained to my own children, there are many assholes in the world, and I advise avoiding them if possible, and if it is not possible to avoid them, then don't take shit from such assholes, at least not without a fight.
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